Sexual Disorientation: The First Kiss Miss
Delve into the jungle of the newly out and single. TNG Managing Editor Corey discusses dating and sex - or lack thereof - every Wednesday morning in Sexual Disorientation.I think I have gotten very good at the first 99% of a first date. It's in that last 1% that I generally screw up, thus preventing myself from getting many shots at second dates.
Standing there with a guy at the end of the night, I know that it's the moment of truth - either I will pull off getting that first kiss or I won't. And thus far I just can't seem to manage it.
I have come to realize that the situation is usually complicated by queer identity and the perception of gays in American society. How do you handle PDA, public displays of affection, in a largely homophobic world? How do you manage chemistry expectations that are often intertwined with notions of gender roles and sexual compatibility? And as same-sex couples don't fit the dating norms, if two men or two women go out and part ways with a wave and a smile, were they even on a date at all?
After months of dealing with these issues I came no closer to finding a solution, but I did begin to think that they may mean the difference between the "good night kiss" and "good night and no luck."
The first part of my problem, regarding PDA, is complicated by the fact that I live in Georgetown. In TV and film - which is where most of us first learn the norms of dating - people are always getting walked back to their apartments after that perfect date, where they ease into the kiss. Alas, none of them lived in the transportation black hole that is my little neighborhood. I'm always miles out of the way from whomever I'm going out with, and thus am never leaving men at my doorstep; I'm leaving them at a bus stop, the metro station, at a bar, in front of a restaurant, or on the street corner like a prostitute or t-shirt vendor.
The worst place I ever parted ways with a first date was on the corner of Wisconsin Avenue and M Street, after a great show and a nice dinner. A tip to readers: if you're ever on a date and you DON'T want any privacy, this is the best location in the District to bring your unspecial someone. It's hard enough to just stand at this intersection without getting plowed down by tourists and the Late Night Shots crowd, much less trying to manage any delicate physical contact.
And it was there on that corner that I realized gays were, in general, at a major disadvantage in sealing the deal for the first time. There have been several anti-gay hate crimes in Georgetown over the past few years, and they always occur - like most crimes - when people are by themselves. It seems to me the stupidest thing in the world to make a big gay scene on the street and then walk off, by yourself, into the dark. Of course it's a double-standard. Hetero couples can do a lot more than a quick kiss before anyone bothers to take notice. But for a gay couple, especially one about to end the night walking off in separate directions, letting others see your lips meet is a somewhat dangerous proposal.
The next facet of my first kiss dilemma has to do with the lack of strict roles each person in a gay relationship is meant to play. In a hetero relationship, the traditional expectation is that the man leads and the woman either consents or suggests she must be going. While it's a horrible, sexist idea of how the end of the night should be managed, there are days when I wish a similar structure existed for gay relationships.
That good night kiss moment is often the first one we have with a potential boyfriend or girlfriend in which the sexual chemistry is tested. Though I believe that the power of roles is limited, and that specific situations mean more, it is true that a certain kind of match is needed to make that first kiss line up. Two shy people might miss an opportunity, two aggressive people might struggle over power, and two indifferent people may break my first rule of dating and try to make something happen just for the hell of it, with no real interest or investment.
Over dinner at Ben's Chili Bowl last week, Zack suggested that I might need to ratchet up my ability to incite some action on dates given that I tended to be attracted to chill, shy guys. That's when I realized my primary role problem in these scenarios: I was good at turning up the heat and escalating romantic situations. I was not good at starting them. I always did fine once I was in the door, but getting there was challenging.
And this brings me to my last concern. In a heteronormative world in which gays aren't always comfortable kissing in public and in which the typical roles for dating don't apply, if the evening doesn't end with some kind of a romantic gesture who's to say it's a date at all? If a single man and woman going to dinner and a movie on a Saturday night, it's a date. But the same-sex couple is platonic until proven otherwise. As far as social norms are concerned, two women at dinner are only having a "girls' night out" until they start going at it, and two men at the movies only a bromance make. So although the challenges for gays getting to that first kiss are great, there is also a higher perceived need for it to happen.
Here's another tip, though: don't get swallowed up in the heteronormativity of the dating paradigm. This can go both ways. Sometimes we might feel pressured not to kiss in public to avoid scrutiny; we may feel pressured to keep our relationships totally closeted, and just cruise Craigslist for sex rather than face homophobic social rejection. On the other hand, we might also feel pressured to lock lips with someone just to prove to the world - and maybe ourselves - that what we went on was a date, even though it was outside of the social norm. And it can be tempting to long for the type of predetermined roles that characterize traditional hetero dating culture so that there would be less guesswork and room for error.
But we need to find our own ways forward. For me, it may mean being more creative about where I chose to say goodnight to my dates. It may also require either choosing more outgoing guys or - because the shy ones are just so cute - learning to be a little more forthcoming myself. Not that the bro hug, awkward handshake, or lonely wave goodbye don't have their place; but when the sparks are otherwise flying, I could stand to get a few more first kisses, and hopefully a few more second dates as a result.
17 comments:
Make.It.Shorter. Our generation has ADD.
I enjoyed the post. Length and all.
Long distance sucks but more so when it involves your bf sending you off at the airport after amazing week/ weekends together. The first time we hugged outside the car, but it was very bromance and I felt very strange about the whole ordeal. Last time was a quick peck on the curb. I am not that big on PDA but it was the world to me.
Not really concerned about the folks who can't focus longer than the commercial-standard 28 seconds. I'm 22 and would much rather have fourteen hours of good old Lincoln Douglass debates any day of the week.
Corey,
When it comes to dating and kissing at the end of the night, you have to decide for yourself. Personally, to keep out of bromance limbo, if I ask a guy out, I call it a date. This way, both parties have similar expectations. My boyfriend appreciated it after dating guys who he "hung out" with for months at a time.
As for kissing, do what is right for you. I have made out on dance floors at breeder bars and kissed guys all over DC. Granted, I am a makeout whore, 6'4" and look like I can beat the crap out of someone though I probably couldn't. I realize this would not be the case for all queers.
Funny side story on PDA, a few years ago, I went on a date with this guy. We went to party and got wasted. Well, when we went our separate ways on the Metro, I proceeded to pass out on the train to Vienna. I woke up thinking I was massaging my date's back and realized he was in a different state (MD) by now. I was rubbing some random guy's back. I apologized profusely and got off the train. I will never forget the look of horror on this guy's face.
To this day, my friends were surprised I did not get slugged by this guy. To which I respond, I was bigger than him, and he was scared of this big, creepy mo getting fresh on him.
I have learned to drink in moderation most of the time or at least under supervision by friends or the significant other.
Oh has anyone gone in for a good night hug and your date goes in for a kiss, so it ends up like a dry hump? If you need a visual, watch the Ryan Reynolds' movie, Just Friends. It happened to me before and it was hilarous.
You need to give the make out signals, if you want a kiss but don't want to be the one to initiate it then if you are at the movies give the knee graze and gauge the response, etc etc, oh the laughing "put your hand on his shoulder" you are so funny thing. Also give the puppy eyes, they are irresistible, and if you want to up the puppy eyes just go for old fashion "eye fucking" also don't forget it sounds stupid but remember Cher's advice from Clueless, do anything to draw attention to your mouth, the lower lip bite is the most obvious "I want to make out now" sign.
Spill the wine, kiss that dude!
Re: Back-splash, I pecked my first BF on the lips on a street corner in Chicago as we said goodbye, and it felt awesome.
I used to be so reticent about PDS before. Now I'm liable to be detained for public lewdness.
Firstly, every word of this post was essential.
Secondly, in your situation, I would raise my eyebrows, put in a devilish grin, and frankly admit, "I kinda wanna make out with you, but don't want to do it here." The range of responses would go from "I don't think that's a good idea" (meaning the kiss in general) to the two of you finding a more suitable location, which could include one of your apartments...
In general, the first kiss at the end of a date is the signal of wanting more. If you can't send that signal because of where you are, you gotta send another, more explicit one.
Good post Corey! I think you'll find your way eventually... it takes some practice to figure out how to interpret chemistry and "make your move" outside the confines of prescribed gender roles.
Personally, I'm a big advocate of homo-PDA. Maybe avoid Georgetown/Northern Virginia though?
i hate to be a lame romantic, but that first kiss should neeeeever be just 1 percent of the date. im serious, wait until that perfect moment where sparks are flying. and this moment may not come on the first date. you shouldn't think that a kiss is required for another date. thats what phones are for.
Corey, I am sorry to admit but this article just reminds me off Drew Barrymore in Never Been Kissed. I am just saying....just go for it.
To officesupplygeek's comment:
I have found Arlington and Alexandria to be gay-friendly and alright with PDAs. I use to live in the area and use to be a make out whore, so I have covered a good chunk of the territory. I am not a huge fan of Georgetown, but that is just me. I would have probably made out there too if I liked any of its establishments.
If you really want it, just go for it. Worst thing that can happen is he doesn't want to kiss you back. In that case, he needs to get out of the way anyway so you can meet someone who does want to kiss you.
That is to say, being gay shouldn't play into these decisions. There are plenty of other factors at play in these often-awkward first dates without thinking you might be the victim of a hate crime afterwards. And I don't think it's helpful to have the gender role stuff on your mind, either. Being gay frees us from that rigid nonsense. It's more interesting this way, so embrace it.
I 110% agree with Back-splash about long distance dating and PDAs at the airport. I want to jump my boyfriend after a great visit for one last amazing kiss, but instead we settle on some furtive, in the car peck. It's a pretty terrible way of saying "until next time" with my lips. Maybe next time I should just jump him.
Corey,
I hate to break it to you but,fixing that 1% is not going to increase your chances of a second date. If a dude is into you , he will want to go out again. If not,he won't. Its also a guy's prerogative to change his mind whether he likes you or not at any time and as many times as he wants. After all,boys are fickle.
If you want to increase your chances of a second date, go on more first dates. Remember, dating is a numbers game.
Corey,
Although my experience was with a woman ( I am female) and we were living abroad at the time, I felt liberated to kiss her near the bus stop (i.e. in PUBLIC) when we left her house the morning after. That being said, Georgetown is the definition of a heteronormative town, so I understand the awkwardness.
As a girl who is bisexual, sorta just starting to date, etc, I can say that it is difficult for women as well to figure out things like, who pays the bill, who should start the kiss etc. If you just go out to dinner with a girl and don't kiss her does that mean that your "gaydar" was completely off?
I find it again, quite liberating to be in "control" of the situation by paying, starting the petting etc.
Just my two cents as I try to figure it out but I definitely appreciated your post.
Corey,
Although my experience was with a woman ( I am female) and we were living abroad at the time, I felt liberated to kiss her near the bus stop (i.e. in PUBLIC) when we left her house the morning after. That being said, Georgetown is the definition of a heteronormative town, so I understand the awkwardness.
As a girl who is bisexual, sorta just starting to date, etc, I can say that it is difficult for women as well to figure out things like, who pays the bill, who should start the kiss etc. If you just go out to dinner with a girl and don't kiss her does that mean that your "gaydar" was completely off?
I find it again, quite liberating to be in "control" of the situation by paying, starting the petting etc.
Just my two cents as I try to figure it out but I definitely appreciated your post.
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