Tuesday, April 08, 2008

Finding New Gays in Unlikely Places

This post was submitted by Jonathan, one of TNG's newest fans.

I'm convinced there are more new gays out there than meets the eye, but the difficulty seems to be figuring out how to sort them out from the rest of the crowd, especially when the crowd is gay and almost uniformly mainstream.

"New Gay" appears if anything to be a way of thinking and far more than just a look. But let's be honest: unfortunately, image is largely what we have to work with when trying to spot a new gay in a crowd. This "new-gay-spotting" is a process which I'd like to think is more than stereotyping, but is still less than perfect.

New-gay-spotting is a social art that is probably very similar to a phenomenon witnessed on most lines of the Parisian metro, where polite staring is an accepted way of acquainting yourself with those around you. It's about careful observation and the delicate construction of a narrative that aspires to explain a stranger using every available detail—searching for a story beneath the statue of his or her public persona.

I was recently new-gay-spotted myself. TNG Zack picked up on a few details about me several weekends ago when he passed me a TNG card at the Black Cat—I must have been sending the right combination of signs (my chucks perhaps, the guy I was with, or maybe my taste in music?).

It's clear there are new gays to be found at certain types of establishments and with enough clues, we pick up on each other in due time. What happens though when the stakes are raised a bit and it's no longer DC9 or the 9:30 club: are there new gays to be found at say, somewhere like Town or Halo?

Of course not, you say. I've read the discussion that Town has generated previously on this site, and I know it wouldn't receive very a very glowing recommendation from most TNG readers—I'd venture to say most wouldn't be caught there.

I share the collective distaste for it, which is probably why I feel slightly guilty having provided them my with patronage last Saturday along with a friend from college. It could be fun this time, I told myself when he proposed it.

Nothing new to report; I could have done without the entire thing before I even made it through the front doors, standing in line and listening to a pair of overweight women with their all-too-skinny gay sidekicks contemplate out loud, perhaps only half-jokingly, what the chances were that there would be some "straight men" there. (This was following a particularly disturbing experience earlier in the evening when someone came up to me to say how much that individual "loved indie fags"—is that a compliment? ).

What struck me though was the sheer number of people in attendance—enough to fill two large floors to capacity—with so many people, how could there not be other new gays? I looked for the details, I saw hints of self-expression between some of the tight shirts, seven jeans, and bare chests, I tried to look for eyes voicing similar disappointment and longing for something better, some form of thought.

I was ultimately unsuccessful, including with my college friend, who, after explaining to me how much he hated places like these and wasn't necessarily feeling the best about himself there, proceeded onto the dance floor, took his shirt off and quickly found a blond, Hollister-wearing distraction for the ride back up the confidence roller-coaster. My disapproving looks had little effect.

As I grabbed my coat and cued up my iPod for a post-bad-techno detox on the walk home, I started to think about how my college friend and I—despite our differences in image (he fits into the gay mainstream in a pretty classic way)—really aren't that different in how we feel about being gay writ large. When we sit down and have an intelligent conversation about gay culture, he seems to voice some of the same frustrations I do. His image belies the fact that he can think for himself, that beneath his mainstream exterior there's some shared new gay frustrations lurking.

Reflecting back on it now, it seems that the real distinction between us is our ability to tolerate a flawed system and accept it rather than work to change it. He has chosen to accept gay culture—even with his reservations—based on the reasoning that "it's all we have." Hundreds of people that night—including myself—made a decision to accept Town as our late-evening nightlife option because "it's all we have." I'm not particularly thrilled to have supported it that night, but am comforted by the fact that I try to lead my life in a way that moves toward the creation of a gay identity I am willing to embrace.

So are there new gays in unlikely places? Probably. It would seem that there are many that are frustrated with the way things are, but far fewer that are willing to make the independent decision to turn away from "what we have" and—in a positive way—create something different. Maybe it's fear that drives them, but I suspect there's a number of new gays out there that have yet to really come out of the closet.


22 comments:

Anonymous said...

nice.

Anonymous said...

There's nothing particularly "new" about wearing chucks or listening to ANY of the artists that ya'll featured on your site. Stop fucking crying about how lame mainstream gay culture is and realize that y'all are just pimping your own tired sub-cultural agenda in some misplaced need to garnish attention and feel cool.

Start a book club, a movie night, a dinner club, a double dutch team, etc. because y'all aren't going to magically stumble on some hidden cache of "super cool" homos.

Love, David

Hans N. said...

Dear David,

TNG is hosting a "Meet New People" event (its third event to date) this very Thursday! So consider your suggestion taken. ^_^

Anonymous said...

Well, I'm glad to hear it. I'm just really over people bashing other people's "lifestyle choices." Some of those folks at Town are tickled pink to listen to bad house and wear Diesel jeans. It's as valid a choice as wearing Threadless t-shirts and listening to, like, The Shins.

David

Parker said...

i don't work here or anything, but i'd like to make a suggestion that the word "y'all" never ever be used on this blog again.

now, i would agree with anonymous that wearing chucks and listening to indie music is just as "new" as it is stereotypically "gay": it isn't either. what i THINK this blog is about is helping those who are tired of the traditional gay scene in DC to find friends and stuff to do outside of places like town. while i don't think it's fair to accuse the writers on this blog of forcing a chuck-wearing, indie-listening orthodoxy on the masses (at least not all the time), i also don't think it's fair to reject and mock any homosexual who doesn't care to be involved in finding something "new," whatever that means.

Anonymous said...

What the hell is a "chuck" as I've never heard this before???

Parker said...

chucks are converse all stars.

Anonymous said...

wow. can i get a witness for oppressed oppressors and some horizontal hostility up in here? i'd love to be an acolyte for the new y'all too. seriously, east coast snobbery and hipper-than-thou 'tude is so new kate perry gay. i mean c'mon, the ugly duckling metaphor only works with some humility; it doesn't mesh well with trying to impress upon people how much better you are than everyone else. look at me! look at me! i'm better than you-zzzzzzzzzz. the subject of you will always be boring. you're supposed to just realize you've become the swan and fly away.

Anonymous said...

@ anonymous #5:

Huh?

Parker said...

anon, you clearly gave an axe to grind about something. not sure what it is but i think i might be at least partially sympathetic. i haven't liked it when this blog has come off a little "indier than thou." if you have a viewpoint, share it. all you've done in your comments is do exactly what you accuse this blog of doing: putting something down just for the sake of putting it down. why is what you seek in gay culture better than what these "new gays" are seeking?

as for the east coast snobbery? yeah. i'm an east coast snob. so what? but that has nothing to do with the fact that y'all is not a word.

smergio said...

okay so i avoided gay clubs and bars for as long as i could.

i tried finding "new gays" at the concert venues and house shows i frequented. the thing is my gaydar does not work on the indie kids. and when "metrosexual" came around it was over.

so i turned to the internet and it was hit or miss.

after a while i stopped caring about whether or not i only was finding stereotypical men. i just cared about finding people that -- hey! had great personalities even though they have a great love of cher.

you want to know why you cant find new gays at the stereotypical bars and clubs? because at some point we decided we were too cool for that. we decided we were better than.

i went to town for the first time last friday. like i said ive never been to many gay bars/clubs. ive been to jrs once and ive been to the green lantern for one of their now-gone alternaqueer dance nights. ive also been to g loung in new york once. thats it. thats all ive ever been to. and you know what? i actually had FUN at town. because i just DANCED and didnt give a shit. i didnt think i was too cool to be there and i didnt care about WHO was there. i just concentrated on myself and having fun.

i love having this blog and having a different perspective of what gay people like and do. but sometimes i wonder if we do sound like we are bashing our own culture.

Anonymous said...

This particular entry kinda reeks of hipster escalation - how cool can you possibly be, and could anyone at Town be more miserable (but hip) than you? If so, he too is cool and "gets it."

In other words, you seem to strive to be more bored with the scene than anyone else. Instead of working so hard to be miserable, work harder to find (or make) your own niche, instead of being a Debbie Downer at Town. There you go...start your own venue in the basement unit and call it Debbie Downer's.

Here's a tip: if you don't like Town, stop going. You'll actually end up saving a lot of money!

Parker said...

i tend to agree with smergio. going to the gay bars in dc or in most cities is not my first choice for weekend fun but that's where gay people are. you likely won't find me enjoying the mariah carey remixes at whereever but you'll see me there hanging out with my friends. you'll also see me running to any place that chooses to play music i enjoy and is attempting to attract people i like hanging out with.

so, i don't think i'm better than anyone who listens to mariah carey or who wears a leather harness at the pride parade. i am better than people who say "y'all," though. just because i'm an east coast snob.

smergio said...

for the record, i support the use of the word yall!

meichler said...

I support the use of the word y'all, but only when properly punctuated. Take that, smergio!

smergio said...

ha! i was just telling my boyfriend how i was wondering when id be called out on my lack of punctuation or capitalization!

owned!

Parker said...

sorry, smergio. you're probably a nice guy and all but, as an east coast snob, i just can't accept confederatisms.

Anonymous said...

last time I checked, boys in seven jeans don't wear hollister

Ben said...

What are seven jeans?

I write for this blog, and I liked Town well enough. There is a limit to its appeal for me, but I've had fun there because I knew what to expect from it.

I feel bad for poor Jonathan, who is getting beat up a little on this one. (Introduce yourself at the party, I'll buy ya a drink). I felt this post was a fairly sensitive depiction of someone who wants to find others who share his goals, whether they be a different kind of music, an environment where he can find conversation and friendly people, or social acceptance instead of feeling invisible, isolated, or in competition with others.
I can understand the frustration with venues like Town, because I felt that way once. I think most of us have, at one time or another. My only advice is to accept Town in its context and try not to get frustrated because it doesn't provide you with what you want from it.

Amy Cavanaugh said...

Ben, Seven is a brand of jeans.

adam isn't here said...

woah...i totally missed out on this one. my favourite part was the "what are chucks?" bit. LOLZ! and i'm from the west coast (of canada no less) and am pretty much totally sure that it's waaay better than the east coast so snob it up all you want kids, we know we got it.

Rey Rey said...

Hmmm... Being a New Yorker and not a DCite, I can sympathize with this blog actually a little too well. Even though there are a myriad of bars in NYC of every shape and size (and amount of hirsuteness), there really aren't any bars where I can hear music that I like (M.I.A., The Whip, The Cribs, etc.) and dress how I want to dress (chucks, t-shirt, jeans) and feel like I belong. So I too end up standing there, feeling out of place and a wee bit of an outsider watching the Chelsea boys and W. Village gay boys dancing to "4 Minutes (Peter Rauhoffer house remix)".

There are fun bars like Phoenix and Eastern Bloc where the New Gays hang out, but sometimes it's not worth having to fight through 20minutes of overcrowdedness to get to the damn bar.

So I end up going to the hipster bars like Fat Baby and Annex, and feel comfortable in my East Village chic but amongst mostly straight but accepting hipsters. And when I do find a fellow gayboy there, it's like finding family. Comforting but still a bummer that we don't have a place of our own... where everyone is gay AND likes all the stuff we like.

So, call it elitism or hipster pretentiousness, but I feel the same way.

And that's why I became a DJ... so I can play "Paper Planes" and "Your Kisses Are Wasted On Me" and "Men's Needs (CSS remix)" to boys who like boys and good music too.

Maybe that's what you guys need... to take over. Start your OWN night and get your New Gays together. And you can all hang out with your arms crossed in TNG bliss. ;-)